New York City Broker Fees Explained

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New York City Broker Fees Explained

(And Some Practical Tips to Save You Thousands)

 

What is the big deal about broker fees in NYC?  / What is a no fee apartment?

People who have never lived in New York City are often shocked to discover the idiosyncrasies of the apartment rental process here, in particular the astronomical broker fees.  Here is my explanation of how broker fees work, and some tips on how to navigate the system and save yourself some cash – possibly a lot of cash.

Elsewhere in the U.S., apartment rentals are regularly transacted directly between the owner and the renter without an agent. And when an agent is involved, it is typically owner who pays the agent’s fee.

In contrast, apartment rentals in NYC typically involve two real estate agents: one representing the owner and one representing the renter.  Furthermore, it is standard for the renter to pay the fees of both agents.

In Manhattan and some parts of Brooklyn, this fee normally amounts to a one-time payment of 15% of the annual rent, due in full prior to signing the lease.  Assuming the average rent in Manhattan, which is now over $4,190 per month (according to Douglas Elliman) , a 15% fee would equate to a payment of $7,550.

This fee typically applies regardless of the agent’s involvement in the transaction or the services provided.  Nor does it matter whether the agent brought the apartment to your attention, or whether you found it online yourself.

Is this extortion?

paying a broker feeAt first glance it does not make much sense.  If finding an apartment is free nearly everywhere else, why should it cost a small fortune in New York City?  Without taking a position on the “fairness” of NYC broker fees, here are a few plausible explanations.

  • New York City has an extremely low apartment vacancy rate, which makes finding an apartment notoriously difficult.  Because of that fact, agents face an uphill battle.  Their costs in time and money are high, and they spend a considerable amount of time catering to clients who never transact.
  • Because finding an apartment in NYC is so difficult, the services of a good agent are likely to save you a lot of time and frustration.
  • Another piece that is often overlooked is that broker fees, in a sense, come out of the pockets of both sides.  In most of the U.S., it may seem like renting an apartment is free because the landlord pays the agent.  But in reality, some of that fee is passed on to the renter in the form of an increased monthly rent.  Similarly, when the renter pays the fee, landlords are willing to accept a lower rent than they would if the fee were being paid by them.

Many people would disagree with these points, though for anyone who is motivated enough to dig into it, there is some good academic research backing them up.  In any case, broker fees are just a reality in NYC, so best to come to terms with them.

Is there any way around the broker fees?
apartment searchingIf you are willing to put in a little work, there are indeed ways of reducing the broker fee or even eliminating it entirely.  Below are a few of the tactics to consider.

 

Tactic #1 : Avoid the need for there to be a second agent involved

When you find an apartment online, make sure you reach out to agent that is listing the apartment (the one who represents the owner).  This will not necessarily be the agent whose contact information you see on the listing.  On Zillow, for example, you often have to scroll all the way to the bottom to find the listing agent.

If you are dealing with the listing agent, he or she can act as both the renter’s and the owner’s agent.  And since the fee does not need to be split two ways, the agent is likely to accept a lower amount.

Alternatively, if you are already working with an agent, make sure you are clear on whether he or she is also the listing agent for the apartments you are being shown.  As before, the agent is more likely to accept a lower fee if there is not another agent involved.

In the case of some large buildings, apartment listings may be handled in-house, in which case there would no listing agent involved at all. So when viewing apartments with an agent, be sure to ask if this is the case.  As in the above situations, if there is no listing agent involved, all of the fee goes to the your agent, which means the commission should be lower.

In some cases, large buildings may pay agents a fee for bringing them new tenants.   In such cases, some agents may try to double-dip by charging the renter a fee as well.  Agents have a legal obligation to disclose any fees they receive, so you should not feel shy about asking an agent directly if they are collecting a fee from the other side.

 

Tactic #2: Negotiate

Although a 15% broker fee has become somewhat standard, it is not uncommon for broker fees to be negotiated lower.  If you walk away from the transaction, the agent is left with nothing, which gives you as a renter some bargaining power.  Just know that apartments do not stay vacant for long, so playing hardball carries the risk of losing the apartment.

In some cases, an agent may be more willing to negotiate if you offer something to sweeten the deal, for example:

  • If you are happy with the service, offer to refer a friend
  • Offer to post a good review on Yelp
  • If you work for a company that relocates employees, an email to your HR department recommending the agent for the company relocation package could lead to a lot of business for the agent, and could go a long way toward easing your negotiation.

Also, be aware that if there are two agents involved, the starting point of the negotiation is really 7.5%, not 15%.  And a large portion of that 7.5% goes directly to the brokerage.  So the amount of room that your agent actually has to negotiate may be smaller than you think.  Some brokerages do not even permit their agents to accept fees below 15%, so you may consider inquiring upfront about the fee and whether it is negotiable.

Finally, two important, and common, pitfalls to watch out for:

  • Never accept a fee higher than 15%.  If an agent claims that anything above 15% is normal, it is a bluff
  • Do not sign anything until you are ready to submit an application for an apartment.  Some agents will ask you to sign exclusivity agreements when they first meet you.  This is not prohibited, but it is a trap.  Signing can lock you into unfavorable terms, and can drastically restrict your options later.

 

Tactic #3: Find a no fee apartment on your own
frustrated by listing sitesIf you have a high tolerance for frustration and plenty of time to spare, you can search for a no fee apartment on your own.  It can be a painful process, though it is very common.  If you choose to go this route, here are a few points to keep in mind.

  • Most no fee apartments are in large, high-rise buildings.  So if it is a unique, pre-war loft you have in mind, you are unlikely to find one without a fee.
  • When websites speak of “no fee,” they often do not distinguish between a listing that truly involves no fee and one in which the owner pays.  Just because you are not cutting the check, does not mean you are not paying.  When the landlord pays the broker fee, it gets passed through to you in the form of higher rent.  Many people disagree with this, but as someone who works with this data on a daily basis I assure you it is true.
  • Often, no fee listings are used as a bait-and-switch tactic.  An apartment may be advertised online as no fee, but once you have viewed it, fallen in love and are ready to move forward, you may be presented with an “apology for the confusion” and take-it-or-leave-it offer that requires you to pay a fee.
  • It is also not uncommon for agents to post a too-good-to-be-true no fee listings, which will be no longer available when you show up for a viewing.  And since you are already in the area, you will instead be taken to see other apartments that are far less enticing.

Personally, I have been through the NYC apartment search many times, in some cases with the help of an agent and in other cases without. In my opinion, agents offer tremendous value in exchange for their fee.  In addition to helping you find the apartments, a good agent’s local insight and relationships can help you negotiate a lower rent, or help you win an apartment that has received other applications.

However, if you have the time to spare I would not discourage anyone from going the no fee route, as the savings can be huge. Most of the New York City apartment rental websites offer a filter option to view only no fee apartments.  Personally I have found Craigslist and Urban Sherpa to have the best selection.

If you have any feedback for how we can make this article more useful, or if you have any questions about broker fees that were not answered in this post, please feel free to contact us.

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27 Responses

  1. POPS says:

    Great article. Really like the no-fee map. Keep up the great work.

  2. Wow, Max, you know this is a hot spot for change, and I’m sure your software can help these renters in their decision a lot. I guess it’s easy on the person renting the unit, but there’s no way somebody won’t step in the create a tech method for fixing this dea.

    • Max Galka says:

      Agree. Our no fee map is a one-off project we thought people would find helpful, but it is far from a permanent solution. I think disruption is on the way for real estate, and look forward to seeing how it plays out.

  3. Matt says:

    Thanks for the article! Question on the landlord side.. In NYC, where tenants typically pay the brokers fee, does a landlord who found his own tenant have any obligation to pay a broker that had an informal arrangement to find a tenant for the landlord?

  4. Max Galka says:

    Good question. The landlord has two options.

    He can do an exclusive listing, in which he agrees to let one broker list the apartment. If the apartment gets rented, the broker collects a fee — doesn’t matter how the tenant found the apartment.

    The landlord can also do an open listing. In this case, the listing is open to any broker. And if the landlord finds the tenant himself, he does not have to pay anyone.

    Exclusive is more common (about 70% of listings)

  5. Jordan Vidor says:

    Great piece – thanks.

    Like many other industries in 2015, the rental-broker industry is dying and candidly needs to die faster… would be helpful to see regulators step in and expedite its death. Insurance brokers are capped at X% of premium (figure depends on market and line of business) – yet – we continue to drastically overpay for a service that is (in most cases) largely unnecessary.

    The tack on of the “broker fee” (which… by the way… is a $5-$10K fee we pay to just-out-of-college ‘salesmen’ and bored housewives) has inflated rental costs to a point that has made affordable rentals few and far between.

    We have had a healthcare overhaul. This next election will focus on an education/pension overhaul. Where is the real estate overhaul??? Specifically the rental market?!

    If I was governor – I would have these guys paid nothing. Posting a few pictures to a website a couple of times a month is a task interns and college students should take up.

    This industry needs to go and not sure why it’s not getting more limelight.

  6. Joe says:

    Does anyone know if the MLS database (to which brokers have access) allow the brokers to see the names of tenants who rented specific apartments? Or can they only see the amount of the rent for the apartments, with the tenants names being kept confidential?

  7. Jackie Roark says:

    I’ve had to endure horrors of NYC brokers both in rentals and recently in buying/selling. You think the rental fees are bad .. that’s a couple of thousand dollars. Try selling a place. I almost gagged when I heard these guys were going to take about 100 thousand dollars from me in commission. Since I usually don’t agree to get taken as a sheep, did a bunch of research, there’s something apparently called “agent managed FSBO” … still had to pay buyers’ brokers something but was satisfying to remove the listing broker and mandatory 6% commission from the equation!

  8. Deer says:

    Thanks for having written this great article!, & love the map. Learned a lot about rental in nyc. Recently trying to find an apt… found it really exhausting and time consuming (unsurprisingly) 😂

  9. caroline says:

    We are new to this. So much personal/financial info collected. Do i give all that information to the broker who then puts in the application? I feel like we are handing our identity over to a perfect stranger.

  10. Ola Ray says:

    Agree with Jordan Vidor above. This industry needs to be regulated. I walked into a building in Inwood, NYC and inquired about vacant apts. The Supt showed me a unit and gave me the number for the management company. When I called them, they referred me to their broker who asked me for over 3k in broker’s fee. He does absolutely nothing, but collect info from to pass on to the management company. They all conspired-agents and management Co.- to extort money from people, because they know how tough it is to rent in NYC. Despicable.

  11. Patricia says:

    The realities in my recent experience is that real estate companies and agents, and the pages that advertise apartments without commission merchant, or fee, advertised dead fish, when I call, these apartments never are available, even I call first time in the morning, they are aggressive-evasive, they lie, I’m talking about what I find in craigslist, rent.com, cityrealty, StreetEasy, Urban sherpa,NYT, and so on,I hope all the victims of this fraud file complaints and serious investigation is made, file a complaint take another hour of your precious life.So when can try between all of us,may be we could get something.

    http://www.dfs.ny.gov/consumer/fileacomplaint.htm

    Thanks to David Mamet we could learn something, but not enough, the sharks still swimming. Each day I have my Glengarry Glen Ross moment, and the real estate agents seem to ignore this gem on business Mamet gave us.
    Here is a masterclass from Alec Baldwin.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrhSLf0I-HM
    Al Pacino
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW7WlT6OJxE
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qa9dttNx1S8
    Best!

  12. judy says:

    There are wonderful real estate brokers who are true professionals …. and then they are others. And there’s a big difference. If people want to sit and do the due diligence of finding apartments to look at … that’s great. And then there are those who just don’t have the time. We all have choices in life. The choice is yours … to work with a TRUE PROFESSIONAL broker …or not.
    I, myself, am a broker … and I’m often told how easy I’ve made the process …. verses theier past experiences. So, again … it’s always your choice.

  13. Justin Duffy says:

    *Sorry for the double post — the original has odd spacing for some reason. Moderator please remove the previous post with the odd spacing. Thank you :)*

    Any industry with 27,000 workers will have some bad apples, and in New York City (the BIG apple), real estate agents are definitely no exception. However the rental brokering industry in Manhattan was born out of necessity and was created to benefit both landlords and apartment hunters.

    Landlords don’t want to put up the funds for someone to manage their properties, advertising, applications and apartment showings, and prospective tenants don’t want to spend time toiling through the internet (and historically, phonebooks and magazines) to find contact information for landlords to find the best deals.

    The way that the internet listings portals currently presents the rental process in New York City is at best a fairy tale, and responsible for a lot of the bad blood between rental brokers and renters. Because of the pace of the rental market, it is impossible to expect any one landlord or broker to keep their listings 100% up-to-date every second of every day. If they did, they would have no time to take anyone out and let them into the apartments in question. The listings portals are not paying them and landlords are not paying them, so their paycheck is dependent on client acquisition and providing a positive and useful service.

    Any service that acts as an intermediary to multiple parties in a fast-paced product acquisition situation opens the possibility of foul play. Because of the business model of these listings portal sites, there is no incentive for them to monitor and police the listings that come through their sites, making it very easy for the bad apples to post and maintain fake or expired listings. Most of these sites make their income from the broker’s themselves, through monthly subscription packages that allow them the privilage of advertising their apartments on the listing platform. The more listings they have on their sites, the more broker’s are paying their monthly subscription.

    Ergo, profit for the listings portals at the expensive of every other party.

    Broker’s fees can sometimes be an overwhelming amount of money, but you are paying for the luxury of having access to listings before the rest of the internet world does and for doing minimal legwork to find a good deal matching what you’re looking for. Landlords have no incentive to pay these fees because they are in control of the supply. So if you want the service, you will need to pay for it.

    This is, of course, if you are able to find a broker that you trust, and that you are willing to buy into their process and allow them to be your ally. It is important to be vigilant whenever you are meeting a stranger from the internet for any reason, but you cannot be unwilling to participate in the service you are requesting. If you want to navigate the internet and make contact with landlords directly on your own, then that is what you should do — but there is no way around compensating a professional for their services should you choose to utilize them. You wouldn’t go to the doctor and say “I can probably get the syringes direct from the manufacturer for cheaper, so I’m not going to compensate you as much as you are requesting”.

    The internet listings portals fantasy that tells you you can just click on a link and then you will magically have access to an apartment that looks as fabulous as the photos is a ridiculous claim. Even when everyone has the best of intentions, the chain of communication between property managers to landlords to brokerages to agents to the internet to the prospective tenant and back again has many links that can easily snap. This is not a result of the industry of rental brokering, but a result of the wasteland of listings portals.

    Broker’s aren’t getting paid by landlords or by listings portals, and most of the work they do (maintaining listings, client outreach and followup, sending over listings of availabilities, photographing apartments, copying keys) goes unpaid. The one money making activity rental brokers participate in (showing apartments), will often go unpaid as well — as clients can and will disappear without warning. So the 15% fee you are paying is likely covering their past few weeks of work. If the rental brokering industry didn’t offer enough income to live above poverty, no one would do it — and without people to open doors to apartments, everyone’s life would be much more difficult. Because landlords aren’t going to do it. StreetEasy isn’t going to do it.

    Use a broker or don’t, and if you do, make sure you do your due diligence as you would when hiring any provider of a service. But don’t outcast an entire group of people, many of which are well-intentioned professionals trying to support their families while offering a necessary service to those who are seeking it in a fast-paced and confusing product environment. You don’t need to use a broker, but there are people who can benefit from the service who are unnecessarily confused by comments like these.

    Best of luck to everyone on their collective apartment search, from one well-intentioned sleazy scumbag broker in Manhattan.

    -Justin Duffy

  14. Manuel Tull says:

    Very Interesting I learned a lot thru your article, I’m actually dealing with a broker as we speak, i didn’t know that anything more then a 15% fee is a bkuff. But I am paying the 15%fee and was able to find a nice lil Studio Apt. So I guess I’m okay for now. But thank you for that information one never knows when I might be in a situation like this again but I’ve got some good insight now. Thank You..

  15. Rory says:

    This article – having lived in the west village for ten years and only googling to explain the broker fee to a parent who still doesn’t understand it, and with a boyfriend who once had his license on the side after grad school – is the most idiotic thing I’ve ever read.

    No, if you’re using an agent as a renter, they aren’t likely to have many remotely decent options as their exclusives as a listing agent – unless you have zero requirements on specific location or virtually anything else.

    The majority of this is so beyond asinine it’s comical.

  16. Len White says:

    So there is a class of broker not specifically addressed here. Finding a listing on an internet based “board” such as Trulia we were then contacted by an individual who offered to show us the apartment. We accepted and signed a lease, paid deposits etc. Only then did the “individual” ask for his commission. We would not have signed the lease had we known that we owed him an extra $3000. He should, in my opinion, have declared the commission and had us sign to agree to the commitment prior to us signing the lease.
    We will agree to pay him whatever we agreed to in writing, which is nothing. In this case.
    He did not handle the transaction well and is becoming aggressive. His problem at this point as he should have been clear on the declaration of his fee. Any thoughts anyone?

  17. Brokerage costs quite often do not coincide with the amount of income and often do not even come to profit

  18. Jennifer says:

    Oh. I’ve had a bad experience with realtors too. You can read about it in my blog: https://nynomads.com/2017/12/searching-unicorn-dealing-devil/

  19. It’s a pity that I could not read your article when I was looking for a home for myself during the training, because it smglo would save me a lot of time and nerves.

  20. Finally I found what I was looking for. Thank you very much for sharing! 🙂

  21. when someday I will manage to visit this big apple, I hope I will like it very much and then I will take your advice

  22. Greta James says:

    Wow, I had no idea that two real estate agents are often needed, which can cost the renter and the owner a lot of money! My sister is thinking of moving to the East Coast as she wants to try to get her name out there as an actor. She is very talented, and I am excited for her to start this journey. However, I wonder if we can find a way for her to get an apartment without those broker fees. We will have to look at different options.

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